24 March 2013

Haman again, or The Pharah in the Koran



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In previous videos I have shown how the authors of the Koran copied legends, fables, fairytales and myths from different cultures and civilisations. The creation story of the Sumerians found its way into all 3 Abrahamic religions, where the splitting of Earth and heavens was copied almost literally into the Koran and served as a basis for the Big Bang erm, "scientific miracle". I showed how Greek embryology was used as basis for the many human reproduction accounts. Endless stories from the 2 Bibles are found in the Koran.


Since I looked into the "Egyptian Connection" with Haman I started chatting. But this time not with embryologists, but Egyptologists. And when you chat with Egyptologists you get some amazing titbits. Not just the obvious, like the construction of the pyramids, but also lesser known details. 80Koe came up with this one and pointed out the various historical sources, which he compiled into his in depth German language video.


Anyone who is familiar with the Abrahamic religions will surely know the story of how Moses led his people through the Red Sea. Well, we know today that none of this is historically accurate, but it is repeated endlessly and some adult humans actually believe this. The Koran does not stop where the conventional Jewish Bible or Old Testament stop, but goes a little further by adding some juicy bits and saving the King of the Egyptians, the Koran calls Pharaoh, and saving him in his body as display for others to see.


This is then declared a scientific miracle as Yusuf Estes, Zakir Naik and Harun Yahya copy, well, what a surprise, Maurice Bucaille, who asserts that he has identified the Pharaoh or Pharaohs in question and fabricates some assertions as proof that he was drowned. And this then serves as proof that this must have been the person mentioned in the Koran.


Whoa, back up a little. No! There was no water in any lungs. None of them were found and buried near the sea. According to the legend, Moses was found in a basket and brought up at the Pharaoh's court. Which Pharaoh? The Koran does not say because the 2 Bibles don't say. Performing some mental acrobatics some people come up with the name Ramesses II, known as Ramesses the Great. But this was a couple of hundred years ago, when these people had no knowledge of forensics. Today we know full well that Ramesses II died at a very high age (over 90) of so called natural causes, i.e. a weak heart or a tooth infection and was initially buried in the Valley of the Kings. He would never have been able to follow Moses for days, standing on a chariot. So that leaves Merneptah, his son - but he only reigned for 10 years, so could not have brought up Moses AND - decades later - followed him. He died  from a heart attack or a blow to the head - but not through drowning - and was also buried in the Valley of the Kings. Our good doctor is aware of this in the 70's, so he declares both Pharaoh's as being involved, the first being the one who brought up Moses and the second who wanted to kill him.
Does the Koran say this? Nope.
Bucaille declares Merneptah's cause of death as drowning. Does anyone agree with him? Nope.
Does this fact stop any Muslim miracle seeker? Nope




Muslims even go on the offensive and cheekily claim that this is original and only found in the Koran.

Is this true?


Well, if you dig deep enough you will find the entire raising the Pharaoh as an example in older texts delivering a remarkable match when compared to the Koran.

If you read the various books of the Jewish Bible and extract the stories, the heroic deeds of Moses make for good camp-fire anecdotes. When the rod of Moses turned into a snake and ate the snakes the magicians of the Pharaoh produced from their rods, it becomes very clear that all these stories are the typical "my god is stronger and bigger than your god" exaggerations.

The same can be said about the devious destruction of the Egyptian army trying to get the poor Israelites back to Egypt. How fitting is it that the stories vary from camp-fire to camp-fire and in one version everyone is destroyed by the just yet oh so merciful god and in the next the head of the army is spared to set an example.

So where does this second version with the spared Pharaoh come from?
Well, all we need to do is look into the Jewish apocrypha and the chronicles of Nineveh.

I was very surprised - and as we are all sceptics - also doubtful of this possibility. Yet here it is, written by Jewish analysts. The "happy ending" here is most probably something different than that what is encountered in massage parlours in Thailand, but the Midrash states that he, the Pharaoh, eventually ended up becoming the ruler of Nineveh - the city God sent Jonah to in order to pronounce its judgment.

So our Egyptian ruler did not die along with his people after all?

The story goes that Nineveh was doomed and Jonah averted the genocide by receiving mercy from his god. And so the Pharaoh, having been drowned in the Red Sea was picked up and brought to Nineveh. How was Nineveh saved? The Pharaoh realised that Jonah was a prophet and ordered his people to repent and fast. God, in this case Yahweh, saw this and spared the city and the people of Jonah. The Pharaoh remains a symbol of conversion, repentance and submission.


So where are the texts?

We have the Book of Jonah, where the entire background story is told. A nice condensed version of the events is in the Book of Jasher, Chapter 81, where we see that "not one man was left excepting Pharaoh, who gave thanks to the Lord and believed in him, therefore the Lord did not cause him to perish at that time with the Egyptians.

And the Lord ordered an angel to take him from amongst the Egyptians, who cast him upon the land of Ninevah and he reigned over it for a long time."

The Midrash has the story and the authors of the Koran copied it. Am I surprised? Nope!


The Koran tells the story of the saving of the Pharaoh in his body is told in 10:92 and that of Nineveh in 10:93 - 10:98.

So we have 2 books, both telling us the story of Israelites in Egypt who want to return to their homeland, the land of milk and honey. Both mention Moses who is the spokesperson for his god and who relays the news about the killed babies and all the other atrocities their god comes up with. In my eyes the best is when god runs out of ideas what he can do to the Egyptians and starts throwing frogs at them.

Anyway, we have the entire Egyptian army follow the Israelites all the way to the coast, where the Egyptians are drowned in the returning sea which had been kindly split for the Israelites. And then we have Jonah, who makes his people repent with the help of a king who is the saved Pharaoh from the Red Sea.

Is there anyone who still doubts the parallels?

There are many commentators who also see the duplicity in events in both books, but they are too numerous to mention here. So the claim by Muslim miracle seekers that this version is not in any previous religious text and is unique to the Koran is just a big, fat lie.

Oh and what is the name of the Surah in the Koran where all this is found: Yunus or Jonah.

Sources:

80Koe's video:

The story:

















Ramesses II

Merneptah

Pharaoh saved:

Midrash of Moses Israelites

Apocrypha

Commentators:



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Background Music clip: Jonathan Richman – Egyptian Reggae from the album Radio On!
Based on Earl Zero’s “None Shall Escape The Judgement”

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Great find of where the story of the saved Pharaoh mentioned in the Koran could have originated from.

Sources:

80Koe's video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q_Mpb8YLRU

The story:
http://www.yashanet.com/shabbat/parsha/vaeirah.htm

Ramesses II
http://www.king-tut.org.uk/egyptian-pharaohs/ramses-ii.htm

Merneptah
http://www.king-tut.org.uk/egyptian-pharaohs/merneptah.htm
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/merenptah.htm

Pharaoh saved:
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/coj/coj052.htm
http://sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/81.htm

Midrash of Moses Israelites
http://www.freefictionbooks.org/books/j/21843-jewish-theology-by-kaufmann-koh...

Apocrypha
http://sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/index.htm
http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon2.html

Commentators:
http://www.aish.com/tp/b/lp/48942336.html

Background Music clip: Jonathan Richman -- Egyptian Reggae from the album Radio On!
Based on Earl Zero's "None Shall Escape The Judgement"

All other clips used under the Provision of Fair Use.

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